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Nov 20 14:00:01 *	NeddySeagoon bangs the gavel to open the November 2016 Gentoo Foundation Inc, trustees meeting. 
Nov 20 14:00:04 <prometheanfire>	dabbott|irssi: hi
Nov 20 14:00:07 <NeddySeagoon>	Roll call ...
Nov 20 14:00:15 <prometheanfire>	here
Nov 20 14:00:20 <robbat2>	present
Nov 20 14:00:27 <SwifT>	here
Nov 20 14:00:44 <NeddySeagoon>	dabbott: 
Nov 20 14:00:50 <antarus>	present
Nov 20 14:01:33 <NeddySeagoon>	We have a quorum ... have logs but I've never got thu hang of git :(
Nov 20 14:02:05 <NeddySeagoon>	Lets start ...
Nov 20 14:02:07 <NeddySeagoon>	Old Business
Nov 20 14:02:29 <NeddySeagoon>	Activity Tracker
Nov 20 14:02:51 <robbat2>	nothing other than the 990, which is best handled by the ongoing IRS stuff
Nov 20 14:03:05 <NeddySeagoon>	Do we need an extension?
Nov 20 14:03:10 <prometheanfire>	domain renewals?
Nov 20 14:03:23 <prometheanfire>	oh, that's 2017
Nov 20 14:04:06 <NeddySeagoon>	IRS Status Report
Nov 20 14:04:32 <robbat2>	dabbott|irssi: did you get an response to the last mailing yet?
Nov 20 14:05:48 <robbat2>	for the record, we filed a big pile of 4506-T forms to get data back from the IRS
Nov 20 14:05:57 <NeddySeagoon>	as dabbott and dabbott|irssi didn't answer roll call, hes probably not around.
Nov 20 14:06:02 <NeddySeagoon>	Lets move on
Nov 20 14:06:17 <robbat2>	the forms should have gone out shortly after october 30th
Nov 20 14:06:39 <robbat2>	objective there is to get a listing of everything we ever have filed or recieved from the IRS
Nov 20 14:07:30 <NeddySeagoon>	yep.  do we want to wait for the response or file for a 990 extension anyway?
Nov 20 14:07:50 <robbat2>	i think we should file for this year's auto-extension
Nov 20 14:08:09 <NeddySeagoon>	Sounds good.  Who does that?
Nov 20 14:08:13 <robbat2>	(we've filed the max extensions for last year already)
Nov 20 14:08:22 <robbat2>	 dabbott would be it
Nov 20 14:08:38 <NeddySeagoon>	OK.  Action on dabbott
Nov 20 14:08:46 <NeddySeagoon>	Elect President  ... we have four voters and two candidates.
Nov 20 14:09:07 <NeddySeagoon>	Do you want to go ahead now or wait for dabbott ?
Nov 20 14:09:34 <robbat2>	if we dissent, he could become the deciding vote
Nov 20 14:09:36 <prometheanfire>	I will be abstaining from this vote
Nov 20 14:09:38 <SwifT>	we can go ahead now and if needed (split votes) wait for dabbott's vote?
Nov 20 14:10:00 <robbat2>	hmm, actually, just 3 voters
Nov 20 14:10:04 <NeddySeagoon>	OK.  we have 3 voters then
Nov 20 14:10:17 <prometheanfire>	since I'm a candidate
Nov 20 14:10:47 <robbat2>	prometheanfire: would you vote for yourself? or do you feel alicef's offering is better?
Nov 20 14:10:48 <NeddySeagoon>	All in favour of alicef for president, please say Aye
Nov 20 14:11:05 <robbat2>	Aye
Nov 20 14:11:17 <NeddySeagoon>	SwifT: ?
Nov 20 14:11:18 <prometheanfire>	robbat2: not answering during a vote
Nov 20 14:11:27 <SwifT>	NeddySeagoon: my vote goes to prometheanfire 
Nov 20 14:11:48 <NeddySeagoon>	And for prometheanfire ?
Nov 20 14:11:52 <antarus>	aye
Nov 20 14:11:57 <SwifT>	aye
Nov 20 14:12:37 <NeddySeagoon>	prometheanfire: congratulations.  You have been elected President of the Gentoo Foundation Inc.
Nov 20 14:12:39 <prometheanfire>	does this constitute quorum? (since we didn't get 3/5 of the total trustees)
Nov 20 14:12:49 <NeddySeagoon>	alicef: There is lots for you to do too.
Nov 20 14:13:10 <NeddySeagoon>	prometheanfire: the meeting is quorate
Nov 20 14:13:11 <prometheanfire>	ya, I think alicef would be good for an officer position at least
Nov 20 14:13:16 <prometheanfire>	NeddySeagoon: yarp
Nov 20 14:13:31 <alicef>	ok
Nov 20 14:13:58 <NeddySeagoon>	prometheanfire: would you like me to run the rest of the meeting, or will I pass the gavel to you now?
Nov 20 14:14:11 <prometheanfire>	NeddySeagoon: yes please
Nov 20 14:14:18 <NeddySeagoon>	ok
Nov 20 14:14:18 <prometheanfire>	the former
Nov 20 14:15:09 <NeddySeagoon>	robbat2: Treasurer Report ... I guess that waiting for the IRS responses ?
Nov 20 14:15:26 <prometheanfire>	robbat2: bank update?
Nov 20 14:16:39 <robbat2>	treasurer report: aside from getting more deprecation entries, I need to fix a value for the Hyves physical hardware donation to infra from 2015 (it was a lot of hardware), then i'll be publishing what I can (a redaction script would be very handy)
Nov 20 14:17:25 <robbat2>	mail-scanning: waiting for a phone response from the two shortlist, then i'll go with one this week
Nov 20 14:17:34 <robbat2>	bank: goes live after the mail-scanning is active
Nov 20 14:17:49 <robbat2>	"live" -> prometheanfire can take the forms with the final mailign address
Nov 20 14:17:57 <prometheanfire>	right
Nov 20 14:17:59 <NeddySeagoon>	robbat2: we don't get to use either as a PA address do we
Nov 20 14:18:15 <robbat2>	PA? do you mean registered agent?
Nov 20 14:18:29 <NeddySeagoon>	sorry, yes  RA
Nov 20 14:18:44 <robbat2>	correct, neither of them are usable as registered agents
Nov 20 14:18:52 <robbat2>	not without lots of extra paperwork filing
Nov 20 14:18:57 <robbat2>	to be recognized in those states
Nov 20 14:19:16 <NeddySeagoon>	Lets not do that unless we get pushed
Nov 20 14:19:36 <prometheanfire>	agreed
Nov 20 14:19:37 <robbat2>	largest danger now is that we end up moving mailing address again, and have to carry the costs of two mail services for a while
Nov 20 14:19:45 <NeddySeagoon>	prometheanfire: D&O insurance
Nov 20 14:19:45 <robbat2>	which I think is a managable risk
Nov 20 14:19:52 <NeddySeagoon>	robbat2: agreed
Nov 20 14:19:55 <antarus>	we have enough income for that
Nov 20 14:20:44 <prometheanfire>	D&O insurance: with robbat2's assistance the application form has been completed.  The only update to the form I'm doing is for contact info (adding myself) and a spelling mistake
Nov 20 14:21:14 <NeddySeagoon>	Sounds good. This will get us a quote.
Nov 20 14:21:15 <prometheanfire>	I'll be mailing (email) the form in tomorrow
Nov 20 14:21:25 <antarus>	they don't require fax? :p
Nov 20 14:21:45 <NeddySeagoon>	heh
Nov 20 14:21:45 <prometheanfire>	there's a reason why PSF went with them I guess :P
Nov 20 14:22:02 <NeddySeagoon>	prometheanfire: Robbat2's email (moving comrel, infra and pr under foundation)
Nov 20 14:23:37 <prometheanfire>	Robbat2's email (moving comrel, infra and pr under foundation): The summary is to explore the possibly of reorging gentoo's metastructure
Nov 20 14:24:02 <NeddySeagoon>	working with rich0 for starters.
Nov 20 14:24:20 <NeddySeagoon>	alicef: in also interested in this topic
Nov 20 14:24:25 <NeddySeagoon>	is*
Nov 20 14:24:29 <prometheanfire>	I'll be writing that up this week using rich0 as a sounding board (planned), and asking for feedback from council and nfp
Nov 20 14:24:38 <rich0>	prometheanfire++
Nov 20 14:24:41 <prometheanfire>	ah, I'll work with her as well then
Nov 20 14:25:24 <NeddySeagoon>	She has before/after diagrams that will be useful 
Nov 20 14:25:26 <prometheanfire>	the current 'plan' in my head is one overarching board, combining council and trustees with subcomittees/groups for various functions
Nov 20 14:25:30 <kensington>	what about asking for feedback from the teams affected, too?
Nov 20 14:25:33 <prometheanfire>	NeddySeagoon: yep, I've saved that link
Nov 20 14:25:55 <antarus>	I suspect that is the role of the council
Nov 20 14:26:01 <antarus>	since they are the head of the developers
Nov 20 14:26:07 <prometheanfire>	kensington: that'd be everyone, but ya, once the proposal is more mature going to -dev would be fun for some bikesheding
Nov 20 14:26:10 <prometheanfire>	antarus: yep
Nov 20 14:26:32 <NeddySeagoon>	heh
Nov 20 14:26:39 <prometheanfire>	anyway, that's the short of it
Nov 20 14:27:09 <NeddySeagoon>	What about the /r/Gentoo subreddit. (Trademark)
Nov 20 14:27:28 <antarus>	are we done with the prev item?
Nov 20 14:27:34 <prometheanfire>	antarus: I'm done with it
Nov 20 14:27:37 <antarus>	ok
Nov 20 14:27:42 <antarus>	next then ;)
Nov 20 14:27:51 <NeddySeagoon>	What about the /r/Gentoo subreddit. (Trademark)
Nov 20 14:28:12 <prometheanfire>	social media: the main question I have here is 'do we want to enforce our coc on reddit/g+/etc?
Nov 20 14:28:28 <prometheanfire>	I'm aware this could fall under pr and comrel and just want us to clarify that
Nov 20 14:28:58 <antarus>	I worry about staffing for such
Nov 20 14:29:04 <NeddySeagoon>	I don't think we can police the internet and social media has its own CoC
Nov 20 14:29:10 <prometheanfire>	I linked to the debian policy as I think it's a good compromise
Nov 20 14:29:16 <prometheanfire>	NeddySeagoon: I agree
Nov 20 14:29:23 <prometheanfire>	I don't think we need such an active hand
Nov 20 14:29:43 <prometheanfire>	however, I know others disagree, which is why I think clarification would be helpful
Nov 20 14:30:31 <prometheanfire>	what I'd seek to do is alter our name/logo usage guidelines to be closer to somethink like debian's https://www.debian.org/trademark
Nov 20 14:30:40 <robbat2>	can we split the coc-on-social-media vs trademark-on-social-media?
Nov 20 14:30:40 <antarus>	so I want to be clear
Nov 20 14:30:46 <antarus>	trademark vs CoC
Nov 20 14:30:46 <antarus>	yeah
Nov 20 14:30:54 <prometheanfire>	I do have one more related issue after this
Nov 20 14:30:56 <antarus>	Trademark is really clearre on what our requirements are
Nov 20 14:31:09 <SwifT>	prometheanfire: heh, we just recently updated our name/logo guidelines after quite some reviews. I don't think the /r/Gentoo subreddit is violating it currently
Nov 20 14:31:31 <NeddySeagoon>	We may wish to take our own sanctions against an identifyable member posting on social media but we would not enforce our CoC outside guntee namespace.
Nov 20 14:32:01 <prometheanfire>	SwifT: ya, I think I should point people to the new stuff https://www.gentoo.org/inside-gentoo/foundation/name-logo-guidelines.html
Nov 20 14:32:01 <antarus>	I also do not think r/gentoo is violating the guidelines
Nov 20 14:32:11 <NeddySeagoon>	SwifT: I can,t be bothered with social media at all.  Please don't ask me to check
Nov 20 14:32:14 <antarus>	do we need a vote, or is there more discussion?
Nov 20 14:32:27 <prometheanfire>	I don't think a vote is necessary at this time
Nov 20 14:32:40 <NeddySeagoon>	Do we need to change anything ?
Nov 20 14:33:05 <prometheanfire>	no, I think it's more just education of those wanting to enforce the CoC on social media
Nov 20 14:33:19 <antarus>	again, CoC vs trademark is different
Nov 20 14:33:26 <antarus>	so we are taking no actoin trademark wise
Nov 20 14:33:56 <prometheanfire>	right, related issue time?
Nov 20 14:34:06 <NeddySeagoon>	If we don't change anything, no vote is required.  How do we 'educate'  those wanting to enforce the CoC on social media?
Nov 20 14:34:35 <antarus>	CoC is a council thing, no?
Nov 20 14:34:39 <prometheanfire>	it is
Nov 20 14:34:48 <antarus>	do they think we are regulating?
Nov 20 14:34:55 <prometheanfire>	specifically richo wanted to be more enforcing of it on reddit
Nov 20 14:34:58 <NeddySeagoon>	enforement is delegated to comrel
Nov 20 14:35:42 <prometheanfire>	this thread is where he states as much https://www.reddit.com/r/Gentoo/comments/5ce1sh/to_comrel_or_not_to_comrel/d9wbrb1/
Nov 20 14:35:52 <prometheanfire>	it's a bunch of walls of text
Nov 20 14:37:14 <prometheanfire>	in any case I'll talk to rich0 about it
Nov 20 14:37:41 <NeddySeagoon>	lets come back to this topic.  No need to read a wall of text in the middle of a meeting
Nov 20 14:37:52 <prometheanfire>	right
Nov 20 14:38:13 <NeddySeagoon>	any more for prometheanfire ?
Nov 20 14:38:23 <prometheanfire>	Just a question, do we need to register our trademark outside the US? if so, have we?
Nov 20 14:39:01 <NeddySeagoon>	The e.V. have it registered in Europe.  Their registration predates ours.
Nov 20 14:39:14 <rich0>	NeddySeagoon: fyi, I don't think WE have to enforce the CoC.  We just need to require anybody who wants to use our name/logo to enforce it themselves.
Nov 20 14:39:37 <NeddySeagoon>	We need to forge formal links with Gentoo e.V.
Nov 20 14:40:12 <NeddySeagoon>	rich0: Thats a good take on the situation ... I like that.  We would still need to oversee it though
Nov 20 14:40:15 <prometheanfire>	NeddySeagoon: perhaps something that can be done at fosdem?
Nov 20 14:40:38 <NeddySeagoon>	prometheanfire: That could be a good time 
Nov 20 14:40:45 <prometheanfire>	rich0: that makes sense, though I still don't see a formal need
Nov 20 14:40:50 <rich0>	NeddySeagoon: You could always just deal with situations as they arise.  Obviously no action is required when a group isn't abusing the policy.
Nov 20 14:41:11 <rich0>	Ultiamtely though it would fall to the Trustees to demand that a site cease using the name if they're in violation.
Nov 20 14:41:13 <prometheanfire>	NeddySeagoon: action me to get in contact with them, don't know what formal ties mean though
Nov 20 14:41:25 <NeddySeagoon>	rich0: Agreed.
Nov 20 14:41:28 <rich0>	Reddit is a non-issue, at least for /r/Gentoo, since we already moderate that.
Nov 20 14:42:20 <antarus>	the foundation certainly doesn't
Nov 20 14:42:32 <NeddySeagoon>	Action on prometheanfire to discuss setting up a formal relationship with the Gentoo e.V. during FOSDEM 2017 if the opportunity arises
Nov 20 14:42:50 <prometheanfire>	k
Nov 20 14:42:58 <prometheanfire>	next?
Nov 20 14:43:06 <NeddySeagoon>	antarus: As the legal face of Gentoo, we would have to write the email
Nov 20 14:43:40 <NeddySeagoon>	SwifT: Private Policy ... I think this was closed at the last meeting?
Nov 20 14:43:54 <NeddySeagoon>	Privacy
Nov 20 14:44:20 <SwifT>	NeddySeagoon: well, it was apprvoed at the last one I was (I missed the last meeting), so I just need to get in touch again with the stakeholders to get it up
Nov 20 14:44:32 <antarus>	NeddySeagoon: I meant that the foundatoin doesn't moderate reddit
Nov 20 14:44:34 <NeddySeagoon>	OK
Nov 20 14:44:47 <NeddySeagoon>	antarus: correct
Nov 20 14:44:47 <antarus>	happy to have better relations with the e.V
Nov 20 14:44:52 <SwifT>	NeddySeagoon: from the bugreport, I think it shouldn't take much more work, I'll see if I can assist them with it
Nov 20 14:44:58 <rich0>	antarus: the foundation doesn't moderate anything.  They just deal with people who violate the trademark policy.   :)
Nov 20 14:45:08 <NeddySeagoon>	SwifT: Thank you.
Nov 20 14:45:42 <NeddySeagoon>	prometheanfire: For the avoidance of doubt, the foundation will not pay your bar bill at the beer event
Nov 20 14:45:50 <NeddySeagoon>	:)
Nov 20 14:46:00 <NeddySeagoon>	SwifT:   Approved Artwork Project
Nov 20 14:46:08 <prometheanfire>	NeddySeagoon: np, I prefer scotch :P
Nov 20 14:46:21 <SwifT>	I asked the artwork project if they were interested in handling approval of artwork
Nov 20 14:46:23 <robbat2>	did you miss the privacy policy?
Nov 20 14:46:38 <prometheanfire>	robbat2: no
Nov 20 14:46:38 <SwifT>	sadly, artwork project is understaffed and I didn't get much feedback beyond dabbott|irssi 
Nov 20 14:46:45 <prometheanfire>	13:46 <           SwifT@> NeddySeagoon: well, it was apprvoed at the last one I was (I missed the last meeting), so I just need to get in touch again with the stakeholders to get it up
Nov 20 14:46:51 <NeddySeagoon>	robbat2: No, we said it was complete except for roll out
Nov 20 14:47:22 <robbat2>	ah, sorry, missed that in the wall of text; i need coffee
Nov 20 14:47:39 <robbat2>	(was writing python for new changelog code until late last night)
Nov 20 14:48:01 <NeddySeagoon>	Bugs ... 
Nov 20 14:48:09 <robbat2>	funding-requests, i have a remark
Nov 20 14:48:41 <robbat2>	there will be a large payment to our gsoc mentors this cycle, reimbursing their travel expenses (just waiting for calchan's invoices)
Nov 20 14:48:56 <robbat2>	then i'll be submitting to Google for our reimbursement
Nov 20 14:49:04 <NeddySeagoon>	thats fairly normal ...
Nov 20 14:49:06 <robbat2>	just so you know when you see the paypal emails
Nov 20 14:49:37 <NeddySeagoon>	Well, in years where we are selected
Nov 20 14:49:48 <NeddySeagoon>	Bugs ... 
Nov 20 14:49:52 <NeddySeagoon>	bug 591704
Nov 20 14:49:54 <willikins>	NeddySeagoon: https://bugs.gentoo.org/591704 "commemorate Jon Portnoy (avenj)"; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; CONF; jer:trustees
Nov 20 14:50:19 <NeddySeagoon>	that con be closed.  I've added the thank you
Nov 20 14:50:39 <robbat2>	i had it open to make sure it was in the accounting ledgers
Nov 20 14:50:51 <NeddySeagoon>	Its still open 
Nov 20 14:50:58 <robbat2>	'finance-audit:TODO'
Nov 20 14:51:06 <robbat2>	in the whiteboard
Nov 20 14:51:21 <NeddySeagoon>	Yes thats why I left it for this meeting
Nov 20 14:51:21 <robbat2>	i should probably scan the letter from the perl foundation for our records as well
Nov 20 14:51:33 <robbat2>	no actions needed for the board, just open for accounting
Nov 20 14:51:44 <NeddySeagoon>	bug 592198 we have discussed
Nov 20 14:51:47 <willikins>	NeddySeagoon: https://bugs.gentoo.org/592198 "D&O insurance"; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; CONF; prometheanfire:trustees
Nov 20 14:52:35 <NeddySeagoon>	Bug 598010 ... do we need to discuss this?
Nov 20 14:52:37 <willikins>	NeddySeagoon: https://bugs.gentoo.org/598010 "Reimbursement for Gentoo banner and Gentoo booth table cover."; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; CONF; alicef:trustees
Nov 20 14:53:06 <dabbott>	  sorry team was tied up
Nov 20 14:53:10 <robbat2>	it's listed further down under funding requests
Nov 20 14:53:23 <NeddySeagoon>	dabbott: You have all the actions up to now  :)
Nov 20 14:54:01 <NeddySeagoon>	Thats about all I can see.  Any more bugs for today?
Nov 20 14:54:03 <robbat2>	dabbott: do you get any IRS response for 4506-T forms?
Nov 20 14:54:16 <dabbott>	nothing yet
Nov 20 14:54:36 <NeddySeagoon>	New Business
Nov 20 14:54:48 <NeddySeagoon>	Re License of the "g" logo
Nov 20 14:55:55 *	antarus has to leave in 5 minutes
Nov 20 14:56:09 <SwifT>	are we owner of the binary files (the vector version that is talked about)? As in, are we allowed to relicense it?
Nov 20 14:56:53 <NeddySeagoon>	Lats leave this until next month.  There are several vector versions
Nov 20 14:56:58 <NeddySeagoon>	Lets*
Nov 20 14:57:04 <robbat2>	we'd have to check up on the ownership, but I have a remark about the licence in general
Nov 20 14:57:06 <prometheanfire>	if so I think the relicencing is 'ok' but needs more thought
Nov 20 14:57:15 <robbat2>	i was the original strong support of the sampling license
Nov 20 14:57:37 <robbat2>	but the cases where it was useful have been subsumed by the 3.0 license series
Nov 20 14:57:42 <NeddySeagoon>	and /me  so it could be used for icons
Nov 20 14:57:56 <alicef>	the g logo that is referred to the mail is by Gentoo foundation
Nov 20 14:58:12 <alicef>	at list the one that is licensed cc 1.0
Nov 20 14:58:18 <NeddySeagoon>	Yes.  Its the Purple G
Nov 20 14:59:01 *	antarus is out
Nov 20 14:59:35 <NeddySeagoon>	We need to do our homework.  Lets postpone until December
Nov 20 14:59:44 <prometheanfire>	agreed
Nov 20 14:59:48 <NeddySeagoon>	Funding Requests
Nov 20 15:00:14 <NeddySeagoon>	Bug 598010
Nov 20 15:00:16 <willikins>	NeddySeagoon: https://bugs.gentoo.org/598010 "Reimbursement for Gentoo banner and Gentoo booth table cover."; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; CONF; alicef:trustees
Nov 20 15:01:28 <robbat2>	to save others the currency conversion, the request is for approx $400USD
Nov 20 15:01:44 <prometheanfire>	is this for a new banner?
Nov 20 15:01:50 <prometheanfire>	I'd prefer that option
Nov 20 15:01:50 <alicef>	banner and table cover
Nov 20 15:02:01 <robbat2>	banner & table cover in Japan yes
Nov 20 15:02:13 <prometheanfire>	should we vote?
Nov 20 15:02:14 <NeddySeagoon>	alicef: an it will be used several time a year ?
Nov 20 15:02:40 <alicef>	the open source event where i'm doing the booth is 2 time at year
Nov 20 15:02:44 <prometheanfire>	could it be used in the AP region in general?
Nov 20 15:02:59 <robbat2>	the banner itself is ~$150USD, which is not far removed from the cost of shipping one of the exist ones (like the banner originally for the AP region, which is now in san francisco)
Nov 20 15:03:01 <alicef>	but it can be used also for other event in japan
Nov 20 15:03:31 <NeddySeagoon>	Do we have enough information for a vote?
Nov 20 15:03:37 <prometheanfire>	I do
Nov 20 15:03:39 <dabbott>	yes
Nov 20 15:03:45 <robbat2>	as treasurer, aye
Nov 20 15:04:11 <NeddySeagoon>	Motion to fund a banner and table cover to be stored in Japan
Nov 20 15:04:25 <SwifT>	aye
Nov 20 15:04:27 <dabbott>	secended
Nov 20 15:04:29 <NeddySeagoon>	robbat2: I take that as a second
Nov 20 15:04:33 <robbat2>	aye
Nov 20 15:04:38 <dabbott>	yes
Nov 20 15:04:40 <prometheanfire>	yes
Nov 20 15:04:56 <NeddySeagoon>	antarus: is away ... SwifT ?
Nov 20 15:05:24 <SwifT>	I already said "aye"
Nov 20 15:05:24 <robbat2>	(i also have to go in 10 mins)
Nov 20 15:06:13 <NeddySeagoon>	Motion carried  alicef you are authorised to recover up to $400 from the foundaiton for this purchase
Nov 20 15:06:25 <alicef>	thanks
Nov 20 15:06:36 <alicef>	and congratulations to prometheanfire
Nov 20 15:06:37 <NeddySeagoon>	Membership Applications
Nov 20 15:06:56 <NeddySeagoon>	Raymond Jennings (Shentino) Bug 592890
Nov 20 15:06:58 <robbat2>	approximately $400USD, if the exchange slides, just talk to me for accounting; i do need the invoices for purchases as well (please attach to the bug, redacted as needed)
Nov 20 15:06:58 <willikins>	NeddySeagoon: https://bugs.gentoo.org/592890 "New Developer: Raymond Jennings (shentino)"; Gentoo Developers/Staff, New Developers; RESO, WONT; soap:recruiters
Nov 20 15:07:27 <NeddySeagoon>	Hes not a dev yet but hes been doing some good stuff.
Nov 20 15:07:55 <prometheanfire>	I agree, he's been active in the community, asking pertinant questions (not bikeshedding too much :P )
Nov 20 15:08:08 <NeddySeagoon>	Ready to vote or hold over?
Nov 20 15:08:18 <prometheanfire>	ready
Nov 20 15:08:27 <prometheanfire>	second?
Nov 20 15:08:29 <NeddySeagoon>	Letse vote
Nov 20 15:08:39 <prometheanfire>	aye
Nov 20 15:08:42 <NeddySeagoon>	Can I second?
Nov 20 15:08:53 <NeddySeagoon>	SwifT: dabbott robbat2
Nov 20 15:09:03 <dabbott>	abstain
Nov 20 15:09:06 <SwifT>	aye
Nov 20 15:09:09 <robbat2>	aye
Nov 20 15:09:19 <NeddySeagoon>	Carred by 3 ayes
Nov 20 15:09:26 <NeddySeagoon>	carried
Nov 20 15:09:39 <NeddySeagoon>	Cleanup ...
Nov 20 15:09:50 <NeddySeagoon>	Date of Next Meeting - Dec 18 2016 19:00 UTC
Nov 20 15:09:58 <dabbott>	ok here
Nov 20 15:10:01 <prometheanfire>	ok here
Nov 20 15:10:27 <NeddySeagoon>	No promises from me but its in my diary
Nov 20 15:10:41 <NeddySeagoon>	SwifT:  robbat2 ?
Nov 20 15:10:44 <SwifT>	ok for me
Nov 20 15:11:02 <NeddySeagoon>	Any other business ...
Nov 20 15:11:17 <NeddySeagoon>	I have one item.
Nov 20 15:11:24 <dabbott>	I got the log minutes and motions, how many motions?
Nov 20 15:12:27 <Shentino>	Point of order
Nov 20 15:12:31 <NeddySeagoon>	The miss two votes atd you are out was never in the bylaws.  It was determined by the trustees as a SOP.  The bylaws say as determined from time to time ...
Nov 20 15:13:03 <Shentino>	When I stood up the mentors project, I forked the official gentoo bikeshed and built my own so we could paint it ourselves.
Nov 20 15:13:07 <Shentino>	that is all
Nov 20 15:13:12 <NeddySeagoon>	Shentino: your turn is under open floor.
Nov 20 15:13:38 <NeddySeagoon>	Any other business ... 
Nov 20 15:13:43 <prometheanfire>	non
Nov 20 15:13:55 <SwifT>	nope
Nov 20 15:14:02 <dabbott>	none here
Nov 20 15:14:06 <robbat2>	none
Nov 20 15:14:20 <NeddySeagoon>	dabbott: you have all the Responsibilities this month :)
Nov 20 15:14:31 <NeddySeagoon>	Open Floor ...
Nov 20 15:14:33 <dabbott>	how many motions?
Nov 20 15:14:37 <dabbott>	2
Nov 20 15:14:54 <NeddySeagoon>	sounds about right and a new member
Nov 20 15:15:05 <dabbott>	ok thanks
Nov 20 15:15:19 <dabbott>	I will send the email also
Nov 20 15:15:50 *	NeddySeagoon bangs the gavel to close the meeting for the last time ... and passes it to prometheanfire